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De redactie van De Karel de Grote Site heeft informatie verkregen, waardoor de reeks zoals hieronder weergegeven geen afstamming biedt van Karel de Grote. De informatie betreft:
* de onjuistheid van het huwelijk Ochten x Arkel (zie de opmerkingen bij generaties 15 en 16)
15 Marina van Bentheim, geboren rond 1190, tr.rond 1225, Ricold/Riculf I van Ochten, geboren rond 1190. NB: dit betreft een omstreden filiatie.
16 Bertha van Ochten, geboren rond 1230, overleden na 1281, begraven te Gorinchem, tr.1) Jan Wolft, tr. 2)Jan I van Arkel, overleden in het jaar 1264, begraven te Gorinchem, heer van Arkel, bijgenaamd "de Sterke".
Bertha van Ochten (overl. na ... 1281) Jans zogenaamde weduwe is niet juist. Berta van Ochten had bij haar man ridder Jan, genaamd Wolf (overl. na ... 1290) minstens twee kinderen: Jutte en Ricold. Jutte Wolf werd in 1277 non in het klooster Zennewijnen en overleed in of na 1309. Dat Bertha van Ochten een dochter zou zijn van Ricold (overl. voor 1281) van Ochten kan kloppen. Deze ridder huwde echter pas c.1245 met een Jutta N.N. (overl. na ... 1282). Kleindochter Jutta Wolf blijkt mooi te zijn vernoemd naar moeders moeder. Aangezien Jan I van Arkel rond 1240 huwde en zijn zogenaamde schoonvader Ricold van Ochten pas rond 1245, is het niet waarschijnlijk dat Jan II een zoon is van Jan I bij Bertha van Ochten.
Waarschijnlijker is dat Yda van Andel de echtgenote was van an I van Arkel. Yda van Andel's naam is ontleend aan het obituarium van de Sint Jan te Den Bosch. Hun dochter Yda (dochter van Yda) huwde met de Bossche ridder Gooswijn Cnode, overl. v.. 1306. In 1306 komen we een zoon van hem met naam Jan van Arkel tegen.
[met dank aan Hans Vogels, die zo vriendelijk was kareldegrote.nl hierop te wijzen]
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